Koji pilotski sat vam se svidja i zasto?

[milan zmaj]

Dosadno mi je i dojadila mi je tema Koji sat uzeti, do pa onda krece zasto-zato..

Da prekinem monotoniju s tim, da se da neki razlog i argument za pilot satove, sta bi trebao da ima i po vama koji je to sat... Da li je mehanicki ili automatik, ili da li treba da bude automatik ili mehanicki ili cak i kvarcni. Voleo bi da razmislite i napisete...
Bilo je lepih tema za vojne, ronilacke, ali ajde da vidimo po Vama koji je ili koji su to dobri satovi namenjeni pilotima!

Nasao sam neki link... nije neki ali ajde da zapocnem.. A inace dosta vojnih pilota i generala znam, izmedju ostalog svi se slazu da narukvica treba da bude mat iz razloga odbijanja suncevih zraka, da ne zaslepljuje!

Pilot Watch HQ: The best pilot watches, selected by a pilot.

[milan zmaj]

Evo bas neletoh na satic kojeg nismo makar ovaj model gledali ili mi je promaklo...Elem....

Watch Reviews




THE RIGHT STUFF: THE BREMONT ALT1-WT
Article by: Jack Forster

There are any number of pilot’s watches being made around the world. Far fewer are those that are actually made by pilots, for pilots. In this latter, very small category, is the English company known as Bremont, which was started in 2007 by two English brothers named, conveniently enough, Nick and Giles English. Nick and Giles grew up around aircraft and began flying at a very early age, and both were RAF reservists as well. Their father was an aeronautical engineer, and his two hobbies were collecting vintage aircraft, and collecting and restoring clocks and watches.

It was in the aftermath of their father’s tragic death in an air show crash (which also left Nick badly injured) that the two brothers had what both later described as a life-changing realization. Both had been working in corporate finance, and it was the loss of their father and Nick’s brush with death that made them realize they wanted to do something with more personal meaning to them than managing money. The result was the foundation of a company whose long term ambition is nothing less than the restoration of British watchmaking –once one of the proudest manufacturing traditions in the world –to its rightful place of prominence.

Bremont’s watches are characterized by the pursuit of extreme durability, accuracy, and reliability –as pilots themselves, Nick and Giles have spared no effort to ensure that their watches both perform faultlessly, and look good doing it. One technology employed in their watches is a special steel hardening process that results in a watch case that is up to 2000 Vickers (a rating scale for hardness); ordinary watch cases are around 350 Vickers. Bremont’s deep ties to aviation have resulted in some remarkable partnerships as well; they are routinely approached by active duty military squadrons to produce watches. They have produced a squadron watch for pilots of America’s U2 spy plane, for instance, and they are the only watch manufacturer ever to have partnered with the Martin Baker company —that’s the firm that manufactures rocket propelled ejection seats for many of the world’s front-line military aircraft.

The newest watch from Bremont is an aviation thoroughbred as well. It’s the result of a commission dating back to 2010 from the aircrews of the C-17 Globemaster , a four-engine military transport jet used for rapid strategic airlift of troops and cargo to forward operating bases. The ATL1-WT Globemaster watch is designed to fill the needs of aircrews operating over long distances and crossing multiple timezones, while also tolerating the extremely rough environment to be expected on an aircraft which often finds itself transporting essential material into an actual theater of combat. As with other Bremont watches, the ALT-1 WT is equipped with Bremont’s proprietary hardened steel bezel, and features an automatic chronograph movement, certified as a chronometer. A rotating inner bezel has the names of reference cities in the 24 major time zones around the world, and we’re very happy to see that Bremont has incorporated their “Roto-click” bezel, which has positive detents that click into position at each one minute mark on the bezel, into the watch.

The ATL1-WT also features, of course, an independently settable 24 hour hand that can be set to show “Zulu time” (UTC or Greenwich Mean Time, which is the time standard for aircraft navigation) or, for non-pilot travelers (that’s most of the rest of us) the time in any desired second time zone.

It’s a tough, no-nonsense watch that was designed from the ground up to fill the needs of professional military aviators. Chances are it can take anything you throw at it as well.

The Bremont ALT1-WT will be available starting in the Summer of 2012, at $5695 in (extremely hard) stainless steel. The watch will be delivered on a (very tough) leather strap with an (extremely durable) nylon NATO military strap as well. A copy of its chronometer certificate will accompany each watch. We are happy to note, by the way, that we have had a Bremont ALT1-Z which we have enthusiastically abused during flights literally around the world for the last three years running and it essentially looks like a new watch. Might need a strap change at some point.

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Interesantna tema.
Ako ćemo o argumentim vezano za to kako treba da izgleda pilotski sat onda su to ovi. Po meni pilotski satovi i ronilački imaju mnogo više sličnosti nego što bi se pretpostavilo na prvi pogled.
Prvo sat mora biti čitak. Znači sat bez suvišnih detalja na brojčaniku. Brojčanik crne boje a kazaljke bele. Rotirajući prsten sa podacima za neke proračune tipa pretvaranje milja u kilometre i tome slično je nepotreban. Pilot koji nosi par tona eksploziva pod krilima, pati se sa G silama, i gleda kako da izbegne nečiju pvo nema vremena da se bakće sa tim koliko će galona goriva potrošiti ako ide brzinom od 1,8 maha, pritom osvetljenje u pilotskoj kabini je takvo da je pitanje da li bi uopšte video šta je proračunao. Takve podatke i gomilu drugih on dobija na komandnoj tabli. Osvetljenje treba da bude vrhunsko, na nivou recimo Seiko Monstera ili tritijum kapsula. Kućište čelično i mat. Kaiš kožni ili platneni ako je čelični onda takođe mat. Mat zbog odbljeska na samo dok pilot leti nego i u slučaju da bude oboren, odbljesak otkriva položaj. Zato su svi vojni satovi mat ( vojnčki šlem je smb boje i to je dovoljno za kamuflažu ali ipak se stavlja ona maskirna platnena kamuflaža-zbog odbljeska šlema). Što se tiče vodootpornosti ona ne mora da bude neka spektakularna ali po meni treba da bude bar 100 m, mislim da to danas i nije neki poseban zahtev niti trošak.

Mislim da se danas svašta zove pilotski sat. Taj prefiks "pilotski" uglavnom dodeljuje proizvođač, a da li je neko zaista pitao i pilote to je već pitanje.

Kada se neko stručan pita onda pilotski sat izgleda recimo ovako:
ili malo moderniji

Kada se pitaju manekeni onda može da izgleda svakako.
Što se tiče mehanizma oni su u prošlosti uglavnom bili mehanički, danas sve češće kvarcni. Ja bih više voleo mehanički, ako mogu da biram. Ono što je bitno jeste da mora imati opciju zaustavljanje sekundare.

Ako bih je birao ( nisam pilot pa ne moram da se povinujem svemu navedenom) izabrao bih Citizen Nighthawk ili za veće pare recimo ovaj Marathon, eta 2824, 300m :


Činjenica je da se danas kao pilotski sat dosta koristi i G-Shock.
Ja sam ovde govorio o potrebama vojnih pilota kakve su potrebe civilnih pilota to je verovatno već nešto drugo.

[igor bg]

Meni se mnogo svidja ova Stowa:

Flieger Chrono


By igorbeog at 2012-01-15


By igorbeog at 2012-01-15


By igorbeog at 2012-01-15

E sad, da li ispunjava neke zahteve koje imaju piloti, ne znam, al meni je prelepa.U sustini mi se svidjaju pilotski satovi koji imaju izgled pilotskih satova iz drugog svetskog rata. Stowa je ako se ne varam i tada pravila satove za Luftwaffe,tako da ima i tradiciju. Koliko sam shvatio iz par postova sa foruma hvalitet Stowa satova bi trebalo da je na zavidnom nivou. Evo i karakteristika sata:

Dimensions
Diameter: 41.00 mm
Height: 14.70 mm
Strap width: 22 mm
Lug-to-Lug size: 50.20 mm
Waterproof: up to 5 ATM
Weight: 100 gr. (leather strap), about 160 gr. (metal bracelet

Materiality
Case: Stainless steel, fine matt, grinded by hand
Dial: black matt, white printed, Superluminova C3
Crystals: Front sapphire crystal domed and sapphire display case back
Hands: Temperature-blued steel, Superluminova C3
Strap: Leather strap or metal bracelet
Crown: Onion Crown

Movement
Caliber: Valjoux 7753
Mechanism: automatic
Half vibrations: 28.000 A/H
Function: hour, minutes, 30 minute recorder (stop function)
Power Reserve: approximately 40 hours
Number of jewels: 27 synthetic rubies
Finish: Geneve Stripes finish, blued screws, golden STOWA engraving

Sve slike su skinute sa Stowinog sajta kao i deo o karakteristikama sata.

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Lepa Stowa. I rekao bih pravi pilotski sat. Pregledan, inspirisan istorijom...

[23jewels]

...42 jewel Caliber 51111 self-winding mechanical movement with 7 day power reserve...

only three words... IWC big pilot

[23jewels]

...E,sada, ne znam koliko ovaj sat zadovoljava kriterijume pilotskih satova, ali ja sam nedavno bio u prilici da dodjem do jednog, i cim vec pricam u proslom vremenu, ne mogu vam opisati koliko mi je zao sto sam oklevao par sati...bukvalno par sati...

Seiko RAF



Posto je kasno, nemam bas vremena da kucam malo vise o njima, evo na ovom linku ima par reci

Seiko RAF and RN Chronographs

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Damsko DC56



Ovaj je i sertifikovan za upotrebu u Eurofighter mlaznjacima.

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Evo još jednog koji se meni sviđa:

Steinhart Nav B-watch,Unitas 6497,SuperLuminova C1, prečnik 47 mm,safirno staklo, cena sata oko 350 E( na sajtu proizvođača) plus isporuka

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[milan zmaj]

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Ja se ubih od pisanja i copy paste i preveliki tekst u bezi Breitlinga Navitimera 806
Ali videcu sa modelatorima da mi daju dodatnog prostora
Oduvek sam voleo da imam Avirex jaknu ali nema broja