Milanche78
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Lepe slike, nadam se da vam je jasno, da u stvarnosti od toga nema ništa, možda u onoj drugoj varijanti (2000+€).
"Svet Satova" custom made limited edition sat
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milan zmaj
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Uvek mora da postoji neki skeptik,mozda sam i ja ali zasto bi kvario temu da bi to samo napisao....
strasno
strasno
Serb
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Slazem se sa milanom, mislim da svi skeptici i ljudi koji ne podrzavjau ideju, treba da sacekaju da se projekat zavrsi, pa onda da kazu "eto znao sam". Ovako sav rad koji ovi ljudi rade , narucito umbra i marko se obezvredjuje, i to nije posteno ni prema njima a ni prema svima nama koji se nadamo da ce projekat uspeti....pisem ovo sa nadom da mi niko nece zameriti, ali mislim da ovo sto sam napisao je dobro za projekat u celini, pa mi oprostite ako sam preterao.
Meni se svidja ona varijanta sata sa treće slike sa kožnim kaišem i belim ciferom :thumbsup: za koji za sada ne mogu da nađem zamerku niti da dam predlog za unapređenje.
Ono što bih još želeo da napomenem, pošto vidim da i dalje ima onih koji su dosta skeptični po pitanju realizacije ove nimalo jednostavne ideje, je da smo svesni da ovo nije nimalo lak zadatak, ali da imamo načina da ovo sprovedemo u delo.
Verujte mi da ispitujemo razne opcije, uzimamo u obzir i kupovinu gotovog kućišta u cilju smanjivanja cene koštanja, ali za sada je prerano govoriti o tome.
Voleo bih da se fokusiramo na dizajn koji Marko predlaže, da dajemo korisne predloge kako bismo dobili dizajn koji se većini ljudi sviđa (svakako ne svima), a takođe su dobrodošli predlozi firmi koje se bave izradom satova ili komponenata (kućišta, ciferi, kazaljke) po narudžbini.
Takođe bih vas zamolio da date predlog za funkcionalnosti koje bi ovaj sat trebalo da poseduje:
Svaka pomoć je dobrodošla, čak i negativni komentari mogu biti korisni ako će nam ukazati na neki previd ili potencijalni problem pri realizaciji.
Hvala unapred!
Ono što bih još želeo da napomenem, pošto vidim da i dalje ima onih koji su dosta skeptični po pitanju realizacije ove nimalo jednostavne ideje, je da smo svesni da ovo nije nimalo lak zadatak, ali da imamo načina da ovo sprovedemo u delo.
Verujte mi da ispitujemo razne opcije, uzimamo u obzir i kupovinu gotovog kućišta u cilju smanjivanja cene koštanja, ali za sada je prerano govoriti o tome.
Voleo bih da se fokusiramo na dizajn koji Marko predlaže, da dajemo korisne predloge kako bismo dobili dizajn koji se većini ljudi sviđa (svakako ne svima), a takođe su dobrodošli predlozi firmi koje se bave izradom satova ili komponenata (kućišta, ciferi, kazaljke) po narudžbini.
Takođe bih vas zamolio da date predlog za funkcionalnosti koje bi ovaj sat trebalo da poseduje:
- Druga vremenska zona (GMT) - moj glas ide za ovu funkcionalnost
- Hronograf
- Dan
- ...
Svaka pomoć je dobrodošla, čak i negativni komentari mogu biti korisni ako će nam ukazati na neki previd ili potencijalni problem pri realizaciji.
Hvala unapred!
anbeast
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GMT - svakako.
Dan - zasto da ne
Hrono - mislim da bi podbrojcanici ''zagusili'' cifer. Moze Marko uraditi i tu varijantu pa da vidimo, mozda i gresim.
Prikaz rezerve snage - bilo bi lepo
Retrogradni prikaz dana (nisam siguran da li postoji opcija kod ETE, ili mora modul)
Naravno, ne sve odjednom
Dan - zasto da ne
Hrono - mislim da bi podbrojcanici ''zagusili'' cifer. Moze Marko uraditi i tu varijantu pa da vidimo, mozda i gresim.
Prikaz rezerve snage - bilo bi lepo
Retrogradni prikaz dana (nisam siguran da li postoji opcija kod ETE, ili mora modul)
Naravno, ne sve odjednom
Podrzavam prethodni predlog od anbeast - GMT i eventualno dan i rezerva snage.
Inace, na zakacenoj slici sam obelezio deo koji mislim da treba doraditi da minutna kazaljka ne bi kacila. Deluje da deo sa krsticem treba ili smanjiti na velicinu unutrasnjeg bezela ili ga prelomiti da prati konture cifera.
Inace, na zakacenoj slici sam obelezio deo koji mislim da treba doraditi da minutna kazaljka ne bi kacila. Deluje da deo sa krsticem treba ili smanjiti na velicinu unutrasnjeg bezela ili ga prelomiti da prati konture cifera.
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backarelli
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zma
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pozdrav! evo i primera...
2012 WUS CMW SE Project - Dial Pattern Vote
tu je sve napisano kako oni rade vec 3 sat, ako se ne varam...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApQZlZC4a41udFFGaE1Oc0RwLUNPOWpocTVBeXU4dGc#gid=0
a ovde je cena zajedno sa mozda njihovim konacnim resenjem...
postovanje!
zeljko
2012 WUS CMW SE Project - Dial Pattern Vote
tu je sve napisano kako oni rade vec 3 sat, ako se ne varam...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApQZlZC4a41udFFGaE1Oc0RwLUNPOWpocTVBeXU4dGc#gid=0
a ovde je cena zajedno sa mozda njihovim konacnim resenjem...
postovanje!
zeljko
zma
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Postovanje!
Kao kupcu nemackog brenda Tourby i clanu i ruskog foruma ljubitelja satova, sinovci iz Tourby-ja su me zamolili da nadjem coveka koji pregovara sa njima i predam sledece: ( ovo je mail koji sam ja dobio od Lise, direktora prodaje Tourby i interesantan je zato sto i mi dikutujemo na istu temu, jel da?)
Dear. Mr. Romam
Thank you for your email
I`ve discussed your request with my boss and we checked the discussion on
watch.ru
First, we are happy that you like our watches. We would like to build a special
edition for the Russian watch forum. It would be a great advertisement for our
company.
Before we reply to your questions we would like to clarify some things. We read
on your forum that a member calculated a price of 200€ production costs on each
Tourby “Guilloché” watch model. This is absolute unbelievable. Our “Guilloché”
watch model cost 899€ inkl. German V.A.T (19%). Net price excluded VAT is 755€.
60% will cover the costs of each watch and 40% is our margin. We would like to
give you 30% discount and will have 10% profit on each watch only. We like to
promote TOURBY WATCHES in Russia. We belive the best way of promotion is when
the people can check the quality and the design of our watches in person. May
the Russian people will like TOURBY and will order more watches from our
company. This is why we give you a big discount of 30%. Normaly we do not offer
any discounts on our watches. But we would like to advertise our brand in Russia
and would like to have more Russian customers in the near future .
When you compare our prices with others German brands, please keep in mind that
we producing max. 500 watches per year only. Other German brands producing
+5.000 or may +10.000 watches per year. This makes a big difference in costs. It
makes a difference if you produce 100 pieces or 1.000 pieces or 10.000 pieces.
It makes a big difference if you buy 100 movements on the market or 10.000
movements. Other watch brands ordering thousands of movements from ETA company
directly and paying half of the price what we paying for 100 movements from
resellers. Some German brands don´t build their watches in-house. The watches
are build from a big factory, who producing watches for many other brands. This
factory may buying 50.000 ETA movements per year and can offer their watches for
low price. But we buying max. 500 movements per year only from reseller, not
from ETA directly (ETA accept orders of +1.000 pieces only). We may paying
DOUBLE for an movement. It is easy and less expensive to buy
“ready-made-watches” from a factory and only drop-shipping, like other watch
brands do. But we build our watches by hand in our own workshops in Germany
(Hagen and Bochum). We make the final controls here (we have very strict final
controls). We adjust all watches in 5 positions. Water Resistance controls
in-house. We are true watchmakers and offering true watchmaking. We offering
custom made watches. We can do hand engravings, skeletonizings, overhauling,
perlage, guilloche, enamel and many more. We make the finish on our watch case
in-house.
Here our offer to you:
42mm watch case, 10.8mm thickness, A (with screwed lugs) or B (with smooth lugs)
watch case, polished finish with brushed sides, triple rings on the bezel (“e”
bezel model), domed sapphire with inside AR, display caseback sapphire, onion
crown, guilloche dial, heat-blued steel Breguet hands, Swiss Made ETA Unitas
6498-1 decorated movement (CDG, blue screws, polished windig wheels, Incabloc),
genuine Lousiana alligator strap (handmade in Germany), deployant buckle, travel
leather case box, 1 year warranty.
“Guilloché” dials can made from brass (standard) or 925 Sterling Silver
(extra). The price of 530€ NET is when you choose a dial made of brass. Same
watch but with a dial made of genuine 925/000 Sterling Silver would be 590€ NET.
Payment by bank wire or PayPal (+4%).
"customization" is available for extra costs:
Custom made print on the dial: +8€ each watch (one design only for all watches)
Custom made engravings on the caseback: + 8€ each watch (one design only for all
watches)
Custom made design for hands (Marine, Louis XV, CATHEDRALE): +10€ each watch
Custom made design for dial: + 10€ each watch (your design with our current guilloché pattern)
Custom made “guilloche” pattern: +60€ each (your design with your new guilloché pattern)
We can build the dial on your picture if you choose a “guilloche” pattern from
our current collection (Guilloché 1, 2 or 3 model). This means your dial but the
middle of the dial would have the same “guilloche” pattern like on the attached
picture. If you like new design “guilloche” pattern it would costs +6.000€ extra
tooling charge (CADOR) or +8.000€ tooling charge (Deutsche Zifferblatt
Manufaktur) to make guilloche pattern. All 100 dials need to have the same
design and same print. 2 colors (50 silver / 50 black, or 50 silver /50 blue).
Please keep on mind that blue hands are not readable on a blue or black dial. So
silver dial would be the best with blue hands (like on our website)
Postovanje!
Z
Kao kupcu nemackog brenda Tourby i clanu i ruskog foruma ljubitelja satova, sinovci iz Tourby-ja su me zamolili da nadjem coveka koji pregovara sa njima i predam sledece: ( ovo je mail koji sam ja dobio od Lise, direktora prodaje Tourby i interesantan je zato sto i mi dikutujemo na istu temu, jel da?)
Dear. Mr. Romam
Thank you for your email
I`ve discussed your request with my boss and we checked the discussion on
watch.ru
First, we are happy that you like our watches. We would like to build a special
edition for the Russian watch forum. It would be a great advertisement for our
company.
Before we reply to your questions we would like to clarify some things. We read
on your forum that a member calculated a price of 200€ production costs on each
Tourby “Guilloché” watch model. This is absolute unbelievable. Our “Guilloché”
watch model cost 899€ inkl. German V.A.T (19%). Net price excluded VAT is 755€.
60% will cover the costs of each watch and 40% is our margin. We would like to
give you 30% discount and will have 10% profit on each watch only. We like to
promote TOURBY WATCHES in Russia. We belive the best way of promotion is when
the people can check the quality and the design of our watches in person. May
the Russian people will like TOURBY and will order more watches from our
company. This is why we give you a big discount of 30%. Normaly we do not offer
any discounts on our watches. But we would like to advertise our brand in Russia
and would like to have more Russian customers in the near future .
When you compare our prices with others German brands, please keep in mind that
we producing max. 500 watches per year only. Other German brands producing
+5.000 or may +10.000 watches per year. This makes a big difference in costs. It
makes a difference if you produce 100 pieces or 1.000 pieces or 10.000 pieces.
It makes a big difference if you buy 100 movements on the market or 10.000
movements. Other watch brands ordering thousands of movements from ETA company
directly and paying half of the price what we paying for 100 movements from
resellers. Some German brands don´t build their watches in-house. The watches
are build from a big factory, who producing watches for many other brands. This
factory may buying 50.000 ETA movements per year and can offer their watches for
low price. But we buying max. 500 movements per year only from reseller, not
from ETA directly (ETA accept orders of +1.000 pieces only). We may paying
DOUBLE for an movement. It is easy and less expensive to buy
“ready-made-watches” from a factory and only drop-shipping, like other watch
brands do. But we build our watches by hand in our own workshops in Germany
(Hagen and Bochum). We make the final controls here (we have very strict final
controls). We adjust all watches in 5 positions. Water Resistance controls
in-house. We are true watchmakers and offering true watchmaking. We offering
custom made watches. We can do hand engravings, skeletonizings, overhauling,
perlage, guilloche, enamel and many more. We make the finish on our watch case
in-house.
Here our offer to you:
42mm watch case, 10.8mm thickness, A (with screwed lugs) or B (with smooth lugs)
watch case, polished finish with brushed sides, triple rings on the bezel (“e”
bezel model), domed sapphire with inside AR, display caseback sapphire, onion
crown, guilloche dial, heat-blued steel Breguet hands, Swiss Made ETA Unitas
6498-1 decorated movement (CDG, blue screws, polished windig wheels, Incabloc),
genuine Lousiana alligator strap (handmade in Germany), deployant buckle, travel
leather case box, 1 year warranty.
“Guilloché” dials can made from brass (standard) or 925 Sterling Silver
(extra). The price of 530€ NET is when you choose a dial made of brass. Same
watch but with a dial made of genuine 925/000 Sterling Silver would be 590€ NET.
Payment by bank wire or PayPal (+4%).
"customization" is available for extra costs:
Custom made print on the dial: +8€ each watch (one design only for all watches)
Custom made engravings on the caseback: + 8€ each watch (one design only for all
watches)
Custom made design for hands (Marine, Louis XV, CATHEDRALE): +10€ each watch
Custom made design for dial: + 10€ each watch (your design with our current guilloché pattern)
Custom made “guilloche” pattern: +60€ each (your design with your new guilloché pattern)
We can build the dial on your picture if you choose a “guilloche” pattern from
our current collection (Guilloché 1, 2 or 3 model). This means your dial but the
middle of the dial would have the same “guilloche” pattern like on the attached
picture. If you like new design “guilloche” pattern it would costs +6.000€ extra
tooling charge (CADOR) or +8.000€ tooling charge (Deutsche Zifferblatt
Manufaktur) to make guilloche pattern. All 100 dials need to have the same
design and same print. 2 colors (50 silver / 50 black, or 50 silver /50 blue).
Please keep on mind that blue hands are not readable on a blue or black dial. So
silver dial would be the best with blue hands (like on our website)
Postovanje!
Z
Jasmin
New member
"But we buying max. 500 movements per year only from reseller, not
from ETA directly (ETA accept orders of +1.000 pieces only). We may paying
DOUBLE for an movement."
Ovo mi nekako nije logicno.. Ako oni kupuju 500 ETA mehanizma za duplu cenu od
trece partije zato sto ETA samo hoce da primi narucbe od minimalno 1000 komada,
zar onda nije pametnije kupiti 1000 komada od ETA za iste te pare kao 500 od trece partije? :man_in_love:
from ETA directly (ETA accept orders of +1.000 pieces only). We may paying
DOUBLE for an movement."
Ovo mi nekako nije logicno.. Ako oni kupuju 500 ETA mehanizma za duplu cenu od
trece partije zato sto ETA samo hoce da primi narucbe od minimalno 1000 komada,
zar onda nije pametnije kupiti 1000 komada od ETA za iste te pare kao 500 od trece partije? :man_in_love:
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Serb
New member
Zma i ja sam to cuo ili procitao negde ne mogu sad bas da se setim. Cak neke firme se okrecu drugim proizvodjacima ili proizvodnji svojih mehanizama, da bi izbegli bankrot. Naravno ovo je neproverena informacija, tako da je ne uzimate zdravo za gotovo, nisam 100 posto siguran da je to tacno
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